Permanent status?

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tinnat
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Permanent status?

Post by tinnat » 03 May 2019, 13:02

Newbie here! I work in another non-UN international organisation where the employment status of a staff member can be on the basis of a temporary contract or simply permanently.

Some job applications for the UN make no mention of contract duration. Does this mean that the employment would be permanent?

thank you!

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Re: Permanent status?

Post by NevKen » 15 May 2019, 19:56

tinnat wrote:
03 May 2019, 13:02
Newbie here! I work in another non-UN international organisation where the employment status of a staff member can be on the basis of a temporary contract or simply permanently.

Some job applications for the UN make no mention of contract duration. Does this mean that the employment would be permanent?

thank you!
UN VAs are only based on contracts so there is no point that the duration isn't mentioned, do you have any example

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Post by supaflynw10 » 15 Jun 2019, 16:08

What is colloquially referred to as "the UN" is actually a collection of international organizations related to the main United Nations organization. Some are completely separate (e.g. FAO, WMO) and some are "funds and programmes" (e.g. UNICEF, UNFPA). The separate organizations will have their own Staff Rules and Regulations, whereas the F&P will typically use the main UN SRRs. These provide for "continuing" (not called "permanent") appointments. Some of the F&P have provision for continuing / permanent appointments too, and some don't. All of this is publicly available information but it is hard to grasp and to research. In any event, you never start off with a permanent / continuing appointment: these are typically awarded after a long period of satisfactory service.

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Re: Permanent status?

Post by UN linguist » 03 Nov 2019, 17:14

supaflynw10 wrote:
15 Jun 2019, 16:08
What is colloquially referred to as "the UN" is actually a collection of international organizations related to the main United Nations organization. Some are completely separate (e.g. FAO, WMO) and some are "funds and programmes" (e.g. UNICEF, UNFPA). The separate organizations will have their own Staff Rules and Regulations, whereas the F&P will typically use the main UN SRRs. These provide for "continuing" (not called "permanent") appointments. Some of the F&P have provision for continuing / permanent appointments too, and some don't. All of this is publicly available information but it is hard to grasp and to research. In any event, you never start off with a permanent / continuing appointment: these are typically awarded after a long period of satisfactory service.
I just wanted to add that in the UN Secretariat, at least, you used to be able to join on a permanent contract. If you joined the organization through the national competitive exams or a competitive exam for linguists, for example, you had a two-year probationary period and if the organization decided at the end of that period to keep you on, your probationary contract was converted to a permanent contract, which then ran until the date of your retirement, however far ahead that was.

A few years ago when there was a large process undertaken to rationalize the huge number of different types of contracts, permanent contracts (which very few people had, anyway) disappeared and people who join through those routes now have continuing appointments, as Supaflynw10 mentioned above. At the same time, people who had worked for the organization for more than five years consecutively were entitled to apply to have their contracts converted to continuing appointments and everyone I know who was entitled to do that did so. So there are still some UN staff on permanent contracts, but as we retire or die off (whichever comes first!), UN permanent contracts will disappear with us.

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